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	<title>Comments on: Guide to a (hopefully) successful 301 &#8211; Update: 301 FAIL</title>
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		<title>By: Led</title>
		<link>http://www.patrickgavin.com/2009/12/28/guide-to-a-hopefully-successful-301/comment-page-1/#comment-4041</link>
		<dc:creator>Led</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your post on how to construct a 301 redirect exceedingly useful and clear. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your post on how to construct a 301 redirect exceedingly useful and clear. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The http://www.internetofficer.com/seo-tool/redirect-check/ is great! Im always having trouble with my 301 redirects, this is going to very helpful indeed! Thanks for the great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.internetofficer.com/seo-tool/redirect-check/" rel="nofollow">http://www.internetofficer.com/seo-tool/redirect-check/</a> is great! Im always having trouble with my 301 redirects, this is going to very helpful indeed! Thanks for the great post.</p>
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		<title>By: don</title>
		<link>http://www.patrickgavin.com/2009/12/28/guide-to-a-hopefully-successful-301/comment-page-1/#comment-4039</link>
		<dc:creator>don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, looking forward to the switch...curious if there is a strategy when the site has dynamic url structure, I ran into a similar problem recently when trying to redesign a customer website, they kept the same url, but essentially I lost all of the pages and links from the original site as the url structure was dyanmic and poorly coded.

 I tried a couple of redirect strategies including the .htacess file without luck so I ended up just blocking the old paths via robots, not the best approach but it works minus the link juice effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, looking forward to the switch&#8230;curious if there is a strategy when the site has dynamic url structure, I ran into a similar problem recently when trying to redesign a customer website, they kept the same url, but essentially I lost all of the pages and links from the original site as the url structure was dyanmic and poorly coded.</p>
<p> I tried a couple of redirect strategies including the .htacess file without luck so I ended up just blocking the old paths via robots, not the best approach but it works minus the link juice effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick  Gavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick  Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ John Andrews, good idea!  Will update post with that.  Andy Beard, thanks for stopping by!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ John Andrews, good idea!  Will update post with that.  Andy Beard, thanks for stopping by!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://www.patrickgavin.com/2009/12/28/guide-to-a-hopefully-successful-301/comment-page-1/#comment-4038</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 03:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add some search/replace MySQL stuff

Dump all your old links into a Speadsheet somewhere as they won&#039;t necessarily be appearing in Webmaster tools.

Try to get a few of the important ones changed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add some search/replace MySQL stuff</p>
<p>Dump all your old links into a Speadsheet somewhere as they won&#8217;t necessarily be appearing in Webmaster tools.</p>
<p>Try to get a few of the important ones changed</p>
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		<title>By: frank bauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank bauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i forgot to mention you should take that nice smile to gravatar.com and sign up!

also, my &quot;20 syllables&quot; comment referred to what i submitted before the &quot;http://&quot; was automatically prepended.
my point is that &quot;www.&quot; is a speed bump when communicating your domain name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i forgot to mention you should take that nice smile to gravatar.com and sign up!</p>
<p>also, my &#8220;20 syllables&#8221; comment referred to what i submitted before the &#8220;http://&#8221; was automatically prepended.<br />
my point is that &#8220;www.&#8221; is a speed bump when communicating your domain name.</p>
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		<title>By: frank bauer</title>
		<link>http://www.patrickgavin.com/2009/12/28/guide-to-a-hopefully-successful-301/comment-page-1/#comment-4036</link>
		<dc:creator>frank bauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice keywords in the domain, patrick!
hopefully it will prove to be worth the cost =8)

http://www.searchengineoptimization.net/ is 40 characters and www.searchengineoptimization.net is 20 syllables - wow!
i would suggest dropping four unnecessary characters and half the syllables (www.) since you are essentially starting from scratch.

since the hostname part of a url is case-insensitive you should use pascal casing whenever using your domain in a message - for branding and readability purposes - SearchEngineOptimization.net

you should also consider acquiring a short, brandable domain and rolling your own url shortener for social media purposes.
(email me if you would like some suggestions.)
for example, a url such as http://www.searchengineoptimization.net/2009/12/28/guide-to-a-hopefully-successful-301/ leaves only 52 characters for messaging and retweet space.

i would add a few of important points to your list for your faithful readers.
these don&#039;t apply to your case as it appears you are already handling this well:
- make sure your domain and url canonicalization is in order - don&#039;t forget to check for wildcard subdomains, ip address and default port specification.
- verify that all of your internal linking (and sitemap.xml for that matter) are referring to your new canonical domain.
- a sitewide redirect might be a good time to bite the bullet and consider going extensionless.

finally, it&#039;s a good idea to investigate the backlink profile of a &quot;new&quot; domain and see if there are any &quot;useful&quot; inbound links you might want to take advantage of as well as anything troublesome you might want to be aware of.
there could also be some helpful clues in the &quot;wayback machine&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice keywords in the domain, patrick!<br />
hopefully it will prove to be worth the cost =8)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.searchengineoptimization.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.searchengineoptimization.net/</a> is 40 characters and <a href="http://www.searchengineoptimization.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.searchengineoptimization.net</a> is 20 syllables &#8211; wow!<br />
i would suggest dropping four unnecessary characters and half the syllables (www.) since you are essentially starting from scratch.</p>
<p>since the hostname part of a url is case-insensitive you should use pascal casing whenever using your domain in a message &#8211; for branding and readability purposes &#8211; SearchEngineOptimization.net</p>
<p>you should also consider acquiring a short, brandable domain and rolling your own url shortener for social media purposes.<br />
(email me if you would like some suggestions.)<br />
for example, a url such as <a href="http://www.searchengineoptimization.net/2009/12/28/guide-to-a-hopefully-successful-301/" rel="nofollow">http://www.searchengineoptimization.net/2009/12/28/guide-to-a-hopefully-successful-301/</a> leaves only 52 characters for messaging and retweet space.</p>
<p>i would add a few of important points to your list for your faithful readers.<br />
these don&#8217;t apply to your case as it appears you are already handling this well:<br />
- make sure your domain and url canonicalization is in order &#8211; don&#8217;t forget to check for wildcard subdomains, ip address and default port specification.<br />
- verify that all of your internal linking (and sitemap.xml for that matter) are referring to your new canonical domain.<br />
- a sitewide redirect might be a good time to bite the bullet and consider going extensionless.</p>
<p>finally, it&#8217;s a good idea to investigate the backlink profile of a &#8220;new&#8221; domain and see if there are any &#8220;useful&#8221; inbound links you might want to take advantage of as well as anything troublesome you might want to be aware of.<br />
there could also be some helpful clues in the &#8220;wayback machine&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: john andrews</title>
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		<dc:creator>john andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve done a few of these this year and am involved in another right now. Climate seems okay.

Looks like you&#039;ve got it under control, but why not highlight for your readers exactly what back links you prefer to your new domain, in case someone wants to help Google see the value of the new domain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve done a few of these this year and am involved in another right now. Climate seems okay.</p>
<p>Looks like you&#8217;ve got it under control, but why not highlight for your readers exactly what back links you prefer to your new domain, in case someone wants to help Google see the value of the new domain?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great explanation. Cross fingers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great explanation. Cross fingers.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick  Gavin</title>
		<link>http://www.patrickgavin.com/2009/12/28/guide-to-a-hopefully-successful-301/comment-page-1/#comment-4033</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick  Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Provo, good to hear from you bro!  Been a while, thought you got lost on Twitter and never worked anymore ;)  Yeah would have been nice to snag searchengineoptimization.com but this was the next best so what the heck, should be a fun project.  Next blog post: 2012</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Provo, good to hear from you bro!  Been a while, thought you got lost on Twitter and never worked anymore <img src='http://www.patrickgavin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   Yeah would have been nice to snag searchengineoptimization.com but this was the next best so what the heck, should be a fun project.  Next blog post: 2012</p>
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